Posts by IT Support2

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"Independent" Scotland joke!

by BoogerMan in

humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.

" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.

try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.

IT Support2

ITSupport great to “see” you. I hope you’re doing well!

Thanks, SBF, and yes, I'm doing great! I've very much moved on from xJW-dom but read about the Pennsylvania indictments elsewhere and was interested to see what was being said about it here; but then I saw this thread and got distracted ... ! How are you doing?

were you in favour of France or Germany having a vote on whether the UK should be allowed to break up the European Union?

Great point, love it!

general elections happen every 5 years, whereas once-in-a-generation referendums don't. C'mon, it's not difficult to distinguish between the two.

You're correct, it's not difficult. So why are you failing to distinguish between a legislative requirement and a trite, off-the-cuff remark by an exhausted politician at the end of a gruelling 24-month campaign? Or maybe you think BJ should be prosecuted for perjury for claiming he'd negotiated an 'oven ready' Brexit deal ... ?

anti-English bigotry

First, I'm neither an SNP member nor supporter though I'll admit to having voted for them on occasions where no acceptable alternative existed, and the majority of my friends are SNP members or supporters and we all rub along pretty well. Having said that, I deplore ALL bigotry, whether anti-English, anti-Scottish, anti-independence and, yes, even anti-Union. Though, hand on heart, I have to say I've seen FAR more anti-Scottish and anti-independence bigotry than the reverse.

Where do you live, LoveUni? I'm intrigued that you apparently have experienced - or, at least, witnessed - so much SNP bigotry.

five million Scots must not be allowed to break up the UK

Wow, now we're getting to the heart of your 'argument'. That sounds dangerously close to saying, 'Scots must never be allowed to leave the UK'.

So you think that irrespective of the number of Scottish residents - remember, the voters in an indy referendum are the Scots, English, Welsh, Irish and everyone else who has lived in Scotland for 3 years (from memory) - who vote to withdraw from the Union, we can NEVER be free??

Really? That's captivity, not a voluntary Union ... and it's almost certainly illegal under international law.

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"Independent" Scotland joke!

by BoogerMan in

humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.

" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.

try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.

IT Support2

Edited to add: of course, the best way to respect the electorate is to respect the 2014 IndyRef and its result.

LoveUni: that's an interesting viewpoint, though don't you think it's the equivalent of saying, 'We don't need another general election because we voted for the Tories in 2010'??

Would you be supporting another IndyRef if a majority wanted to rejoin the UK?

We would have to support another referendum if we wanted to preserve our self-respect and hold up our heads in public. But that's what democracy is all about.

I've just read the thread and enjoyed the variety of comments!

Incidentally. Scottish independence is absolutely not anti-English. There are large numbers of English now living in Scotland who support independence and are welcomed into the fold with open arms. And we enjoy a good-natured debate in the pub with those who disagree with us!

I lived in London for years and had a great time there; and some of my kids have moved to England with their work and they may, or may not, choose to move back when we get our independence, but that's up to them and I'd never criticise them either way.

Independence is simply about which government you vote for; I've no doubt that, post-independence, English folks will still move to Scotland to live, and Scots to England. And we'll still be friends!

Independence is not a declaration of war; it's simply the desire to choose our own government, and the ability to chuck out a government we don't want. Which we're unable to do in Westminster (as we're so much smaller than England).

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JW child abuse (UK only)

by IT Support2 in

a friend who's not posted here before has asked me to post this for him..

dear friends,.

i’m working on a project that, i'm sorry, but i can’t yet make public - as i don't want to give wt advance warning - but it will be big news at some time in the future..

IT Support2

There's a big difference between knowing that some unspecified actions are being planned, and knowing details of what actions are being planned.

I guess you could say, the devil's in the details!

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JW child abuse (UK only)

by IT Support2 in

a friend who's not posted here before has asked me to post this for him..

dear friends,.

i’m working on a project that, i'm sorry, but i can’t yet make public - as i don't want to give wt advance warning - but it will be big news at some time in the future..

IT Support2

As he said, 'Charlie' is concerned, on a public forum, of saying too much that would give WT warning of work that is being done behind the scenes.

Anyone is free to call him and make up their own minds whether or not he is genuine. I've known him for a couple of years and have no doubt whatsoever.

As for myself, I left (faded) in 2003 and used to be pretty active here and this forum was a tremendous help in moving on.

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JW child abuse (UK only)

by IT Support2 in

a friend who's not posted here before has asked me to post this for him..

dear friends,.

i’m working on a project that, i'm sorry, but i can’t yet make public - as i don't want to give wt advance warning - but it will be big news at some time in the future..

IT Support2

A friend who's not posted here before has asked me to post this for him.

Dear Friends,

I’m working on a project that, I'm sorry, but I can’t yet make public - as I don't want to give WT advance warning - but it will be big news at some time in the future.

It's only for xJWs in the UK, a similar USA project may follow, depending on the success of this one.

Were you abused whilst you were (or still are) a Jehovah's Witness?
Was the abuse reported to the police?

I would very much like to speak to you. It will, of course, be 100% confidential: if you wish, you can use a fake name and withhold your telephone number. If you would prefer a friend to call on your behalf, that is also fine.

This is NOT about solicitors, lawyers, lawsuits or compensation. Nor is it about joining another religion, etc!

I would really appreciate if we could talk. I'm an xJW myself - I stopped going to meetings around 15 years ago - and am very friendly. 😊

Call me on 07585 426905.

Charlie